Since the transit method of detecting exoplanets requires perfect alignment of orbits, would a Kepler-type telescope yield more exoplanet detections if sent out of our solar system even to relatively realistic interstellar distances (say, 0.1-0.5 light years)? Essentially, what I mean is changing the coordinates at which we'd do the observing.
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9$\begingroup$ By the time the telescope reaches the observation position, Earth will advance the methods of observation so far the telescope will be an entirely obsolete antique. $\endgroup$– SF.Commented Feb 10, 2017 at 10:31
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1$\begingroup$ I'm not sure I understand the all relative velocities and angles involved, but isn't the sun moving so earth based telescope offer different coordinates over time? $\endgroup$– user17699Commented Feb 10, 2017 at 16:38
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3$\begingroup$ Cross-posted from Worldbuilding. $\endgroup$– HDE 226868Commented Feb 10, 2017 at 22:23
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$\begingroup$ It might make sense eventually, but we currently don't have the ability to send a telescope that far away. If we launched such a telescope today, then waited 100 years and launched another, the second one would almost certain reach its final position first because of the more advanced propulsion technology. $\endgroup$– Keith ThompsonCommented Feb 11, 2017 at 17:37
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@SF. is right. It is true that a location far from Earth could have access to different orbital planes and thus potentially see a different set of occultations an transits, you would have to move very very far away from the Earth to make any difference.
The same budget and time would be much better spent developing a next generation optical space telescope which uses mirror segments that are no longer even part of the same spacecraft, but instead are separated by tens or hundred of meters from each other but can still combine their signals (optically or otherwise) to synthesize an extremely high resolution optical aperture as big as the distance between the segments. This is the same principle used by radio telescope arrays.
With a larger effective aperture you can resolve objects farther away, which opens up a much larger volume of space for direct imaging of solar systems instead of relying on geometry for transit measurements alone. Right now only a handful of systems close to the Earth have any kind of direct imaging data.
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2$\begingroup$ OP was asking about transits... I'm not sure how your idea of high resolution at radio-wavelengths would help here? $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 10, 2017 at 17:06
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1$\begingroup$ I think the point here is that, for the same budget, you could switch from measuring transits to direct imaging. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 10, 2017 at 17:41
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$\begingroup$ @AtmosphericPrisonEscape I'll add the word "optical" to make it clearer. $\endgroup$– uhohCommented Feb 10, 2017 at 19:00
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$\begingroup$ @JohnWalthour Yes I've added that explicitly as well, thanks! $\endgroup$– uhohCommented Feb 10, 2017 at 19:12
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1$\begingroup$ @uhoh This is all well and nice. My point was that OP asks about 'A', instead you answer 'B'. Creative answers are of course OK, but I didn't get the point you wanted to answer. Apart from that transits and DI are complementary techniques, one sensitive to planets at large and the other to small semi-major axis separations. I think OP's question reflects a want to overcome limitations in transits and not more besides that. $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 11, 2017 at 12:11
There are several problems with that idea:
- As mentioned by uhoh and SF, reaching a point far enough away from our solar system to make a different observation than Kepler's takes so much time, that the telescope and the data will in fact be antiquated by the time they reach that point - even IF (and that's a very very big IF) we could even manage to build it that it would still work in that distance (power source, transmission array, controlling the telescope's orientation etc.), it would be of limited use.
- The angle to watch would still be the same. Yes, you would be far out in space, but you would STILL only be able to detect most planets with a transit method, simply because now that you might be a little closer to the Alpha Centauri System, you would still be light years away from almost any other star and still face the same problem as you face on earth. You might detect a few different planets, due to a slightly different angle, but they wouldn't be that much different unless you consider moving hundreds of light years - which would take millions of years with our current technology.
- Direct detection by visual imaging with current technology is out of the question unless you get very close to a star system or the planet is sufficiently large and far away from its parent star. The limiting factor in this is, that the parent star is so bright, it outshines the reflected light of its planet by several orders of magnitude. If they are close to the parent star, the star will be too bright for them to be imaged directly (be it in microwave, IR, visual or UV range). If they are far away from their parent star, the reflected light is far too faint to be detected unless that telescope would be close to the star system observed - and then it could only detect the planets of that specific star system.
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$\begingroup$ "... the star will be too bright for them to be imaged directly..." That's not really a fundamental limit though. The next generation space telescopes with new coronagraph technology should allow imaging of many planetary systems currently out of reach. $\endgroup$– uhohCommented Feb 10, 2017 at 19:17
Somebody else can tackle the detailed maths, but the longer your baseline, and the more observatories, the more complete the coverage. Two observatories in the same orbit as Pluto but on opposite sides of the sun would still only be 0.0012 of a light year apart. Three would be better and they would still be close enough (just) to allow for the communication necessary to allow coordinated observations necessary for parallax type measurements and comparisons. Going much further doesn't actually help since there would be no way to get the information back to Earth to be useful.
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$\begingroup$ The question is about detecting exoplanets around other stars. I don't think parallax can help here, a long baseline would have to be for interferometry. $\endgroup$– uhohCommented Feb 10, 2017 at 19:20