After reading the question Where is Vela 1A? Is there any information what its orbit would be like now? and the answer there, it looks like they were deployed in roughly 5 day, 100,000 km circular orbits, which tended to grow quadratically/exponentially(?) in eccentricity over years, then later more slowly in inclination, and now have become quite scattered.

I've plotted all twelve of the Vela spacecraft below. They are called either Vela 1 though Vela 12, or Vela 1A through Vela 6B (launched in pairs).

While of course orbital mechanics is complicated and the effects of the Earth's shape as well as that of the Sun and Moon depend on the details of each orbit, are there any basic principles here that can be understood from this collective plot?

If not, I can make more complicated plots, but I don't want to get into that unless its necessary.

Yes, there are real multi-decade gaps in the TLE histories for these objects. That's what makes it more intriguing!

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1963-039A    00674  *  VELA 2     
1963-039C    00692  *  VELA 1

1964-040A    00836  *  OPS 3662 (VELA 3)
1964-040B    00837  *  OPS 3674 (VELA 4)

1965-058A    01458  *  OPS 6577 (VELA 5)
1965-058B    01459  *  OPS 6564 (VELA 6)

1967-040A    02765  *  OPS 6638 (VELA 7)
1967-040B    02766  *  OPS 6679 (VELA 8)

1969-046D    03954  *  OPS 6909 (VELA 9)
1969-046E    03955  *  OPS 6911 (VELA 10)

1970-027A    04366  *  OPS 7044 (VELA 12)
1970-027B    04368  *  OPS 7033 (VELA 11)

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The main culprit is the Kozai mechanism.

Basically, with objects in orbits of this sort, you can swap from a highly inclined, nearly circular orbit to one that's more eccentric and less inclined. It's not quite that simple here, because the Velas are significantly perturbed by the sun, moon, and the earth's oblateness. But the overall effect is that swap of eccentricity and inclination. The orbital period/semimajor axis remains mostly unaffected (you can't just park yourself in a particular orbit and let perturbations pull you into a higher or lower orbit, sadly… that would be useful if you could do it.)

In re the TLE gaps: Space-Track's predecessors computed them for some years, but have mostly lost track of them. I work with the asteroid survey folks, and they've recovered several of them, which has resulted in my being able to compute TLEs for them again. (I compute orbits and TLEs for lots of high-flying junk, mostly so that the asteroid guys can ignore them. See https://www.projectpluto.com/pluto/mpecs/pseudo.htm for examples, including the Velas.)

By coincidence, the Catalina Sky Survey (one of the major asteroid surveys) just recovered one of the Velas on the day of your post (1964-040B = NORAD 00837 = Vela 2B). The story also has a link to a plot showing the perigee distance and inclination for this object, from right after launch to 2029. You can see that they proceed largely, though not entirely, in lockstep.

In extreme cases, this resonance can bring the perigee down into the atmosphere, as will happen next January for the Soviet magnetospheric research satellite 1977-093A.

It got forty good years, but in a few months... it's toast.

  • $\begingroup$ This is fascinating information, thanks, and welcome to Stack Exchange! $\endgroup$
    – uhoh
    Commented Sep 19, 2018 at 16:42
  • $\begingroup$ fyi the coincidence was here $\endgroup$
    – uhoh
    Commented Sep 19, 2018 at 16:49
  • $\begingroup$ It turns out that I've used a link to Project Pluto already in this answer. I've just started now to have a look at the website, goodness there's a lot going on there. $\endgroup$
    – uhoh
    Commented Sep 21, 2018 at 13:29
  • $\begingroup$ fyi I've just asked What Earth satellite remained in orbit the longest before reentering? $\endgroup$
    – uhoh
    Commented Dec 28, 2019 at 0:12

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