# How can I calculate the delta-v correctly, this way does not seem to be correct?

I'm learning about Astrodynamics, and I would like to ask how can I calculate the $$\Delta V$$ for an interplanetary mission.

I used a website for the porkchop plots (http://sdg.aero.upm.es/index.php/online-apps/porkchop-plot), which gives me the $$\Delta V$$ of the mission, and I am comparing my calculations with the $$\Delta V$$ that the site gives me, but they aren't alike at all, so I was thinking that maybe you could help me to calculate it correctly.

The calculations I did are following the site http://www.braeunig.us/space/interpl.htm

Solving the Kepler equation, I get the position and velocity of each planet at departure and arrival ($$\vec{V_{p1}}$$ and $$\vec{V_{p2}}$$). In my case, the planets are Earth and Jupiter and the date of departure is 21/01/2030, with a time of flight of 869 days (I used the porkchop plots in the first site I linked for choosing a departure date). After that, I solve the Lambert problem given the two positions and the time of flight, getting two velocities ($$\vec{V_1}$$ and $$\vec{V_2}$$).

With those values, I obtain the difference between the spacecraft heliocentric velocity and the planet orbital velocity. That is, $$\vec{V_1}-\vec{V_{p1}}$$. Taking that value as $$\vec{V_\infty}$$, I calculate the injection velocity as $$V_o=\sqrt{V_\infty^2+\frac{2\mu}{r_o}}$$. Being $$\mu$$ and $$r_o$$ the values respect to the Earth. As I have a parking orbit with a radius of 200 km, $$r_o$$ is the sum of the Earth radius plus 200 km. At last, I calculate the $$\Delta V$$ as the difference between the injection velocity and the orbital velocity

$$\Delta V=V_o-\sqrt{\mu/r_o}$$

Qeustion: With these calculations, I have a $$\Delta V=19$$ km/s approximately, but the $$\Delta V$$ I have according to the porkchop plot is about 8.8 km/s. I am new with Astrodynamics, so I am trying to learn how to calculate this properly, but I don't find the mistake and I don't know what's wrong.

• I wasn't the downvoter, but usually Stack Exchange doesn't like "how do I do X" questions without good research effort. Can you tell us why the existing questions about delta V don't help you, or show the calculations that aren't comparing to the website?
– Bear
Commented Jun 4, 2018 at 18:37
• Hello, sorry for the way I asked the question. I added the calculations I made with the explanation according to what I searched. I didn't find any books that explains this properly, so I don't know what to do to calculate this properly. Commented Jun 4, 2018 at 19:20
• Why was this downvoted when nonsense like "Why do not we fly to space with helicopters?" sits at +12? Commented Jun 4, 2018 at 19:23
• @Hobbes How disrespectful of helicopters! It's all about reusability today. Commented Jun 4, 2018 at 20:26
• @Hobbes I've added something to the title of that question. The body of the question does try to address the problem from a quantitative perspective, it was just an unfortunate choice of titles. The post itself was not "nonsense".
– uhoh
Commented Jun 5, 2018 at 1:36

note: This is a very helpful extended comment that may be of use to the OP but it can't currently be posted as a comment until this user reaches 50 reputation points.

Oh this is a fantastic question. It is common to fall into the following trap when making these types of calculations.

• Check carefully your reference frames. Celta V numbers are all relative, and trying to calculate delta V between orbits in different frames can be very problematic.

• Figure out what reference frames these v-infinities are from in the pork-chop plot. Are they relative to the planet or are they inertial with respect to the sun?

Once you figure that out, how do you transition from one frame to another? What parameters do you need? Once you have those nailed down, then make sure that all of your vectors are all in the same frame when doing addition, subtraction, cross-products, etc.

Edit: I wanted to leave this as a comment, but I need the reputation in order to do that. When I hit 50 I will delete the answer and put it as a comment.

• +1 but the OP has put effort into provided a specific example of the calculation they are doing in hopes of finding out what they have done wrong. If you can spot it, please mention it specifically in your answer. Right now, your "Check X, Y, and Z" is more of a comment than it is an answer to the question as asked. I've added a line at the beginning of your post to make this clear. Once you reach 50 reputation points you'll be able to leave proper comments on other people's posts. Please feel free to edit further, and Welcome to Space!
– uhoh
Commented Jul 25, 2019 at 21:37
• If you can somehow reduce its size below 500 (currently it is 714 below the --- part), then we could ask the mods to convert it to a comment. Commented Jul 25, 2019 at 22:47
• @peterh "Ensure you are using consistent frames of reference" Commented Jul 25, 2019 at 23:51

It would help if you showed your results at different steps. Then it would be less difficult to spot the error.

End of January 2030 is about the right time for a Hohmann launch window to Jupiter (according to my arithmetic). But an Earth to Jupiter Hohmann is just short of a 1000 days. An 869 day trip would boost delta V. Regardless, I did a quick diagram of an Earth to Jupiter to Jupiter Hohmann trip. This quick BOTE assumes circular, coplanar orbits for departure and destination planet.

Earth's heliocentric velocity is about 30 km/s. Hohmann transfer orbit's heliocentric velocity at perihelion is 38.8 km/s. So Vinf at earth departure is 8.8 km/s.

Do these numbers agree with your calculations?

If so, I will move on to injection velocity from a 200 km low earth orbit.