# Name for point in a satellite's orbit around a planet when the satellite is furthest from the sun

When a satellite is orbiting a planet (which itself is orbiting the sun) there are periodic points when the satellite is closest to and farthest from the sun, once where it is interposed between the sun and the planet and next when the planet is interposed between it and the sun.

What are the names for these two points?

• @Phiteros I keep running into perihelion and aphelion, which are not correct. Every search I put into google returns this. Sep 29, 2018 at 23:29
• Ah, I see. The satellite is orbiting a planet which is orbiting the sun. I misunderstood what you were asking. I'm not sure if there is a term for those situations. The closest I can think of is a conjunction. Sep 29, 2018 at 23:38
• I think you could call it opposition? Usually meant for planets tho. Sep 30, 2018 at 9:52
• Thank you for doing research @uhoh! Search engines seem to fully fail on this topic. Sep 30, 2018 at 11:48
• @uhoh neat question! I made an attempt there, but it has no appeal to authority, just "common sense". Oct 3, 2018 at 19:22

There are some serious problems with the OP's own answer, and so I think conjunction won't do for a satellite in Earth orbit, at least in LEO (where many/most of them are). While Archimedes could move the Earth with the proper fulcrum and a large lever, I'm not sure this can apply to the aforementioned "shoe-horn" as well.

There are two problems actually:

1. In the context of artificial satellites, the term "conjunction" is frequently used for a three dimensional event; a very close approach of the variety that might result in collision. Satellite conjunction detection and conjunction reports have to do with scenarios where two spacecraft may collide resulting in "end of mission" and a whole lot of brand new space junk.

To read more about this, see what the letter "C" stands for in Celestrak's SOCRATES; Satellite Orbital Conjunction Reports Assessing Threatening Encounters in Space as well as the questions

1. Parallax! for satellites that are not in absurdly large distances from Earth, their apparent solar conjunction wanders all over the place depending on the location of the observer. Even in 2D, for satellites in LEO (the ISS for example) there's a ~140° difference between apparent solar conjunction as seen from one side of the Earth compared to as seen from the other. With a significantly inclined orbit, formulating the way that a definition can be worded based on apparent solar conjunction becomes even more difficult, as does even trying to draw it correctly in 3D.

Here's a sketch of the 2D problem for a 400 km altitude circular orbit lying in the plane of the ecliptic, showing that the effects of parallax are huge!

• Hi @uhoh this is an interesting comment, and makes sense if you define this visually rather than geometrically. Two points 1. It's not clear if conjunction and opposition are defined visually (like syzygy) 2. While it is a critique of the answer, it does not propose an answer itself. Oct 20, 2018 at 16:29
• @KaushikGhose as far as 2. occasionally answer posts are used as space for extended, thoughtful, technical comments where the conventional comment function is insufficient. I've seen this allowed in several SE sites, on a case-by-case basis. Search SE sites for things like "extended comment" or "long comment" or similar(keep the quotes). I found ~40 in Physics SE, ~400 in Math SE, and a few in Space SE and Astronomy SE. As far as 1. The question asks for "the name" rather than a potential name or a name candidate. Your answer is unsourced, it looks like you've just made it up, then accepted.
– uhoh
Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21
• @KaushikGhose So in place of Archimedes, let's go with Hippocrates and say "desperate times call for desperate measures. It's not a perfect fit, but I think I can shoehorn it in. If you can produce a source that shows that opposition is correct for an artificial spacecraft no matter the shape of the orbit, that's great! But take a Sun-synchronous orbit with say an ascending local time of 17:00 and a) try to draw that and the Sun on a 2D piece of paper and then b) make a "geometrical argument" and I think you'll...
– uhoh
Oct 20, 2018 at 17:28
• @KaushikGhose ...see that terms like "conjunction" and "opposition" are completely unworkable, and that's why your answer is not correct, and why there isn't a word. It's a 2D answer in a 3D world.
– uhoh
Oct 20, 2018 at 17:29

Based on comments by @phiteros and @carlos-n under the question, the closest terms seem to be Conjunction and Opposition. As described in the wikipedia article these are meant for apparent positions as observed from a given location - like the Earth, and meant for planets and natural satellites, but the diagram suggests they can be shoe-horned for this purpose.

• do you mean inferior conjunction? Also, I've left another answer that addresses this term.
– uhoh
Oct 17, 2018 at 9:09