# Walking in a rotating spacecraft and Newton's 3rd Law of Motion

I am wondering how Newton's 3rd Law of Motion would apply in the case of a man walking the length of a rotating spacecraft.

Say that there was a spacecraft sitting still in interstellar space, far away from any stars and planets. The spacecraft then starts to rotate via an electric motor until it reaches a rotating speed that will mimic Earth's gravity for a man inside the spacecraft. The man walks from one end of the spacecraft to the other end. While he is walking, will the spacecraft remain stationary or will the spacecraft move in the opposite direction, thus obeying Newton's 3rd Law of Motion, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Also, if the spacecraft is set in motion by the man's walking, will the spacecraft remain in motion and travel in that direction indefinitely?

EDIT

If the length of this spacecraft is extended out to 1 km long and the man is walking at 3km/hour, at this rate it will take him 20 minutes to walk from one end to the other. Now since he transferred a lot of kinetic energy to the spacecraft in those 20 minutes, the spacecraft should be moving at a good rate of speed (based on the fact that the spacecraft is constantly accelerating while he is walking).

When he reaches the other end and comes to a stop, will his body mass coming to a stop transfer enough kinetic energy back to the spacecraft to bring the spacecraft to a stop?

• The system isn't balanced, I wonder if it will start to wobble and precess as much as it will move laterally, causing the person to become nauseous and run back to the corner. – uhoh Mar 3 at 15:37
• @HRIATEXP ah, but which will rotate, the motor or the spacecraft?? – Organic Marble Mar 3 at 15:54
• As the man takes his first step, the craft will begin to move in the opposite direction. As he takes each step the craft will continue to move. When he takes his last step, or crashes into the end will, both he and the craft will return to rest. Given the motor (And counterweight) is massive enough to spin the man and craft without issues, the amount it will move is slight. – JCRM Mar 3 at 16:41
• @OrganicMarble, that's a good point. I suppose that the spacecraft could be rotated with roll thrusters instead of an electric motor. – user28781 Mar 3 at 18:16
• @uhoh, I can see that may happen, he may need to take Dramamine before he starts. – user28781 Mar 3 at 18:40

In the frame of reference where the spacecraft is initially at rest, the momentum of the spacecraft (including you) will initially be zero. By conservation of momentum, it will continue to be zero the entire time you are walking and after you have stopped.

While you are walking, you will have a certain amount of momentum in your forward direction. Because the total momentum of the spacecraft-plus-you is zero, the spacecraft will have momentum of the same magnitude in the opposite direction. This means it will be moving very slowly towards your rear. Because it is much more massive than you, it will be moving backwards proportionally more slowly. Somebody watching from the outside would not be able to notice the motion.

Once you got to the other end, as you stopped moving forwards, it would stop moving backwards, thus keeping the net momentum at zero. This would be true no matter how you moved around inside the spacecraft before stopping.

It is wrong to think that you will be continually transferring kinetic energy while you are walking. You transfer a small amount as you accelerate to your walking speed, and then you perform no additional (net) work on the spacecraft until you stop. The momentum has to balance.

The effort you put into walking is to make up for frictional losses in your joints and against the ground, and it all gets turned into heat.

• @ Mark Foskey, very good explanation. This pretty much answers my initial question of whether the spacecraft would stay stationary or would be put in motion while the man is walking. I'm curious about one thing though...would the same hold true if say the man was to ride a segway instead of walking? Would riding on wheels make any difference? – user28781 Mar 4 at 3:17
• @HRIATEXP: No, the whole argument just talks about momentum transfer between the person and the spacecraft. If we looked in detail at steps we could see that the motion of the spacecraft had some steppiness to it, which the segway would presumably remove, but this answer does not consider that. The segway would start at the beginning and stop at the end just like the walker. – Ross Millikan Mar 4 at 3:54

The spacecraft + astronaut can be treated as a system where the center of mass is moving. When the astronaut stops, the space station stops its astronaut-induced motion, because the momentum in that system is conserved.

The Third Law is how momentum is transferred between the parts of that system, but conservation of momentum is going to dictate the velocity of those parts relative to one another.

• @ Erin Anne, thanks for pointing that out. One thing though, the spacecraft and the astronaut should be in motion at the point where he stops walking. Is it correct in saying that the spacecraft should slowly decelerate for a time before coming to a dead stop as opposed to it making an immediate dead stop when he stops walking? – user28781 Mar 4 at 0:31
• The station continuing to have velocity from the astronaut's walking would imply that the astronaut still has velocity too. If the astronaut has stopped walking, the astronaut has also stopped moving the space station. – Erin Anne Mar 4 at 0:35
• @ Erin Anne, okay – user28781 Mar 4 at 0:43
• To put it another way: If the astronaut COULD be stopped with the space station still moving, the astronaut could start again before the space station stops. How much more energy would the space station gain? How much longer would it take before the space station stopped? Eventually the space station wouldn't need thrusters anymore, just something moving back and forth inside. In the universe we live in, this doesn't work. – Erin Anne Mar 4 at 0:59
• What about friction? If more energy is lost due to heat by walking than by stopping, wouldn't that result in a net difference? – vsz Mar 4 at 5:11