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The N1 was a big disappointment after exploding on every single launch attempt. From what I have read, it seems like most of the attempts went wrong because one of the 30 engines exploded causing a chain reaction on the rest.

30 engines of the N1

30 engines of the N1

5 engines of the Saturn V

5 F-1 engines of the Saturn V

NASA on the other hand developed the F-1 engine. It was more powerful than the ones the Soviet Union used and the Saturn V only required 5 instead of 30.

Why didn’t the Soviet Union develop larger engines for the N1?

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    $\begingroup$ Personal conflicts could play role too. You can google "Korolyov Glushko rivalry". If Glushko would work for N-1 engines it could be a different story. Probably USSR would still lose the Moon Race (less resources, wrong management decisions), but would have a functional superheavy launcher in 70-es. Later, in 80-es, Glushko was successful in developing Energia rocket and RD-170 engine for it. $\endgroup$
    – Heopps
    Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 12:01
  • $\begingroup$ @Heopps this is my personal opinion, but I think that if the N1 would have worked, the United States would have continued the space race. Since there would have been more competition, we would probably have gone further than just landing on the moon. I also believe that if Sea dragon were ever built, it would have been a game changer. But this is just my opinion, you can disagree or agree. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 12:11
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    $\begingroup$ It would also help to search for why the USA decided on sending men to the surface of the Moon. Sputnik scared the heck out of the USA. (The message was if we can put a vehicle in orbit, we can also nuke the bleep out of you.) President Kennedy wanted something, anything that would decisively beat the Russians in space. A space station? Nope. The Soviet Union would beat the US (and they did). Weather / communications satellites? Nope. Not decisively convincing. But a Moon landing where the US's spending might would outdo that of the USSR -- that was the winner. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 14:26
  • $\begingroup$ Development of the F-1 engine took a lot of time. It was started in 1955, first component test firing 1957, first full test firing was 1959 and the last 1965. $\endgroup$
    – Uwe
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    $\begingroup$ There were 30 engines $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 22, 2023 at 9:29

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Developing new engines takes time, and time was a precious resource in the Moon race.

The major problem with making larger engines is the problem of combustion instability of large combustion chambers. This is a problem that gets dramatically worse as you scale up engines. It's not an unsolvable problem, it just takes careful injector design, focused R&D, and at the time completely new technology leaping into the unknown.

Progress on rocket engine technology was made extremely quickly back then. The actual engine used, the NK-15 is also an example of that. Just as the F-1 solved the problem of combustion instability in large chambers, the NK-15 solved the problem of oxygen rich staged combustion, making it an extremely performant kerosene/LOX engine still an attractive option up the the current day.

So what to do when under extreme time pressure?

  • Option 1: Hope the issue of combustion instability can be quickly solved, develop a new cutting edge engine in record time. (Probable result: rushed engine technology having a high chance of launch failure)
  • Option 2: Use an existing high performance engine, and hope that the complexity and integration problems of running many in parallel can be solved in a short time (Probable result: rushed integration having a high chance of launch failure)

Using components that actually exist seems like a reasonable decision with some chance of success. But the time crunch was going to cause problems anyway.

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    $\begingroup$ I would add that fixing combustion instability is an open-ended problem (might not actually be solvable), whereas integrating multiple engines was probably seen as a simpler problem (how hard can it be?) Also, altering the design to 'just' five engines doesn't remove the integration problem entirely. $\endgroup$
    – MikeB
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    $\begingroup$ @MikeB great point. It's reasonably sure that they would have gotten the N1 to orbit given some more resources and less time pressure. Meanwhile, NASA have to consider themselves lucky that the F1 plan actually worked out. It's pretty bonkers what the engineers accomplished there. I mean, "it's unstable, let's try exploding some bombs to find out how exactly it responds"?? $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 19:32
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    $\begingroup$ True. Integrating more of the same engines is mainly an engineering issue while solving combustion instability is a science problem (which they did not know if it's solvable at all). Using 33 engines that use pyrotechnically actuated valves (and could not be statically fired before launch therefore) might not have been the best idea tough. $\endgroup$
    – TrySCE2AUX
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While the accepted answer explains the technical reason why many NK-15s were chosen over a few large, new engines, it isn't the whole story:

  • The N1 program was only given the go-ahead by the Soviet Politburo halfway through 1964. That meant the Soviets were starting around three years behind Apollo, which when you consider Apollo took about nine years to succeed, is a massive and arguably unassailable deficit.
  • Sergei Korolev, the architect of the N1, had a massive disagreement and falling-out with Valentin Glushko, the #1 designer of rocket engines in the USSR, over the type of propellants in engines for manned rockets; Korolev wanted liquid oxygen/kerosene which he considered safer, while Glushko firmly believed that higher-energy but more dangerous hypergolic propellants were the way forward. After a commission ruled in Korolev's favour, Glushko effectively threw his toys and refused to work with Korolev. Despite this being Soviet Russia, Glushko was considered too vital to military rocket engines for ballistic missiles to be forced to behave, thus Korolev was forced to look elsewhere for an oxygen/kerosene engine supplier.
  • Nikolai Dmitriyevich Kuznetsov was ultimately the person chosen by Korolev. While Kuznetsov was an immensely talented engineer whose rocket engine designs ultimately did prove themselves, at this stage in his career he'd only ever designed airplane engines. Thus, expecting him to build a super-heavy oxygen/kerosene rocket engine that also overcame the then-unsolved problem of combustion instability was considered somewhat unreasonable even by the Soviets - hence he provided the relatively low-risk, but small and untested, NK-15.
  • Korolev passed away in 1966, leaving his deputy Vasily Mishin to take over the N1 program. Mishin was by all accounts more of an administrator than anything else, and did not actively drive the N1 program as his predecessor had; rather he simply continued implementing Korolev's plans. In particular, this meant he did not consider e.g. re-engaging with Glushko in order to attempt to procure different engines to the then-untested NK-15, nor he did not obtain or retain the political backing that the program as a whole would would require to see it through what would undoubtedly be some initial failures.
  • The first launch attempt of the N1, and also the first test of the rocket coupled to its engines, was in February 1969 - a mere five months before Apollo 11's historic moon landing in July of that year. This attempt failed, demonstrating that the lack of integration testing of vital components was a serious problem; but as there was no alternative design or components and it was far too late to go back to the drawing board if the Soviets still wanted to beat the Americans, the N1 team pressed on.
  • The N1's second launch attempt occurred less than three weeks before Apollo 11's touchdown, and again failed - this time catastrophically enough to destroy the entire launch pad. At this stage it was likely obvious to all involved that massive design changes were needed for the N1 to ever make it out of the atmosphere, but...
  • ... on 20 July 1969 the USA landed on the Moon, with the result that the Space Race was over, the Soviets had lost, and political support for the N1 quickly died - along with the possibility of securing the additional resources required for the redesign work it needed to succeed.
  • While the final two launches of N1, in 1971 and 1972, could potentially have saved the program, these also failed despite significant redesign of numerous components. A fifth test flight was intended for the second half of 1974, but program cancellation occurred before this could occur.

Source of above information: various Wikipedia articles and YouTube documentaries that live rent-free in my head

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    $\begingroup$ This is good and AFAIK correct info, but your answer would be greatly improved if you added references so that readers can check your assertions. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 24, 2023 at 15:26
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    $\begingroup$ One nitpick: is it accurate to call the hypergols Glushko advocated for "higher-energy" compared to kerolox? I know kerolox doesn't generally have a great specific impulse, but I'm curious how much of a difference there was. $\endgroup$
    – DylanSp
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The N1 was a big disappointment after exploding on every single launch attempt. From what I have read, it seems like most of the attempts went wrong because one of the 30 engines exploded causing a chain reaction on the rest.

This isn't quite correct.

  1. Explosions were fully expected during the development program. NASA built a test stand where they could test the entire first stage. The Russians thought building such a test stand would take too long, so they decided to test the first stage by flying it. They were planning up to 14 of these test launches, initially with dummy stages. The actual launches all had payloads, I guess they were getting desperate (with the obvious progress of the Apollo project by 1968, it was clear there wasn't time for 14 test launches).

  2. The NK-15 had a similar problem. The initial version of this engine used pyrotechnics to open some valves, which meant the engine could only be started once before needing a rebuild. This meant they could not test-run engines before installing them on the stage. Instead of testing each engine, they would build a batch of 6, test 3, and if those ran well, install the remaining 3. They were working on an improved version that was restartable, to be used from the fifth launch.

  3. Most of the failures were not engine issues.

  • N-1 3L: Pogo oscillation in the propellant lines to one of the engines started a propellant leak, starting a fire in the engine bay.
  • N-1 5L: Debris (welding slag) entered the turbopump of an engine which caused it to explode, starting a fire in the engine bay.
  • N-1 6L: rocket went out of control due to complex aerodynamics at the base of the first stage.
  • N-1 7L: Shutting down 6 engines caused a shockwave in the propellant lines, breaking them and starting a fire in the engine bay.

So the 3 failures that involved the engines all had to do with the structures in the first stage that were attached to the engines. Testing individual engines would not have found this, but all-up testing of the first stage would have helped.

Sources for this are mostly Boris Chertok's memoir Rockets and People and Nick Stevens' book N-1 For the Moon and Mars.

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    $\begingroup$ Why were six engines shut down on 7L, if not due to engine failure? $\endgroup$
    – Cadence
    Commented Oct 2, 2023 at 10:23
  • $\begingroup$ @Cadence - They didnt say it wasn't. They said most of the failures were not engine issues. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 2, 2023 at 11:42
  • $\begingroup$ The flight plan called for those engines to be shut down to reduce the structural stress on the rocket (I suspect this was near max-Q or maximum dynamic pressure). $\endgroup$
    – Hobbes
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  • $\begingroup$ @Hobbes I see, I know some other rockets throttle back around that point in ascent. I just always assumed that was a gentler process so I discounted it. $\endgroup$
    – Cadence
    Commented Oct 2, 2023 at 14:13
  • $\begingroup$ Throttling back a rocket engine tends to be complex. When you have 30 engines available, shutting down a few can be a simpler solution. $\endgroup$
    – Hobbes
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The Soviet program (general program, aside from lunar program) was far more militarized, and in addition to Ian Kemp’s points a small engine had more military (missile) applicability. The Soviet powers that be would be more approving of the 33-engine scheme, being extensible (descensible?) to an ICBM or similar.

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