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Would there be different effects on the human body (physiology, chemistry, psychology, other) over long periods of time if there was very very low gravitational field acting on it instead of being in a low earth orbit freefall?

In low earth orbit every bit of mass constituting a human body is still acted on by the gravitational attractive pull of the mass of every particle of earth. When we move from near earth towards mars humans will be so very far from our gravity well that the gravity field density will be ‘thin’ and unlike anything ever experienced before.

I would think Apollo flight conditions wouldn’t be considerable since 1) such short overall duration and 2) not really very far from earth.

Taking the thought further, would ‘between planets’ be comparable or not to ‘between stars’?

Edit: my question is more along the line of Do we suspect there might be effects from the sever reduction or near absence of a gravity field other than the known common physical wasting effects. This is kind of the opposite of being emersed in strong RF fields causing destructive effects (or helpful treatments) or long exposure to x-rays or exposure to strong magnetic fields making MRI scans possible.

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  • $\begingroup$ This is basically more of a physics question of whether there’s a difference between the reference frames of freefall around a planet and being away from a planet. $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 2 at 22:20
  • $\begingroup$ @fyrepenguin This is not about freefall or reference frames. Think of it like standing in front of a microwave transmitter. Life has evolved for X billion years standing in front of a gravity transmitter. Could our fundamental life processes go on the fritz in very very low gravity field. $\endgroup$
    – BradV
    Commented Jul 2 at 23:44
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    $\begingroup$ your comment there speaks to what I feel is a fundamental misunderstanding. There is fundamentally no difference between free fall and zero gravity. Aside from the minute tidal forces mentioned by uhoh, there is no perceivable difference. There is no equivalent to what you’re thinking of with a microwave transmitter, but for gravity. $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 3 at 5:26

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Answer: No. Freefall is freefall.

Gravity does not act directly on human physiology, but rather through the forces it produces. In freefall, there are no forces. The mechanism of freefall (LEO, interplanetary transfer) is not relevant

For instance, spaceflight osteopenia (bone thinning) is due to lack of load on bones, not to the lack of gravity. Osteopenia also appears rapidly here on Earth ( within Earth’s gravity field) as a side effect of medical immobilization.

The mineral matrix of bone is a piezoelectric crystal. Loading bone produces electric fields which “tell” bone-forming cells (osteophytes) how to lay down bone to counter loads. In the absence of loading, the normal continuous remodeling cannot occur. It is not gravity which drives this process, but loading. Below is a cross section of a human femur illustrating how bone structure models along load lines.

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279272770_Application_of_Neural_Network_and_Finite_Element_Method_for_Multiscale_Prediction_of_Bone_Fatigue_Crack_Growth_in_Cancellous_Bone/figures?lo=1

Similarly, the cardiovascular effects of microgravity (diuresis, contraction of intravascular volume, relative anemia) are due to the loss of the normal hydrostatic gradient, not the absence of gravity. These effects are seen on Earth (in the Earth’s gravity field) with strict bed rest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weightlessness

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Could there be a difference to the human body between Low Earth Orbit “zero G” microgravity and midway between planets weak gravitational fields?

tl;dr: day-to-day routine movement and scheduled exercise will dominate the microgravity experience of long-term missions; whether you orbit the Earth or the Sun, there won't be any meaningful difference.

I think these days we usually prefer to call the residual accelerations experienced by people (and things) in LEO as microgravity rather than the colloquial weightlessness or zero-gee:

Microgravity environment is more or less synonymous in its effects, with the recognition that g-forces are never exactly zero.

From a physics perspective, the only thing that matters is the sum of all sources of acceleration. In LEO there's still ~0.9 g gravity since we constantly accelerate in response we don't experience it.

Astronauts not touching the sides of their container are in free fall. Or at least their centers of mass are. There's a teeny tiny gravity gradient across the body, but I think that if they simply raise their arms to scratch their noses, they'll experience larger acceleration gradients in the process.

Most of the issues related to microgravity in an astronaut container in LEO involve the physical relationship between the astronaut and the container. If you start "at rest" with respect to the container at its center of mass (or along the orbital arc that passes through it, you'll stay there. However if you start a little "higher" or "lower" the orbital trajectories will differ and from your perspective inside the container you will think that you start accelerating towards the container wall.

If you grab something to stop, you'll now experience a slight acceleration and you'll feel a teeny tiny force in the process, and you'll say "Hey, microgravity!"

If the container performs one of its regular altitude raising propulsive maneuvers needed to counteract orbit lowering from atmospheric drag, astronauts then experience much larger microgravity, but usually for only several minutes, and there's going to be some warning.

LEO vs Helio

The main difference between being in a container in LEO vs a container on a heliocentric elliptical transfer orbit to Mars is degree.

Accelerations due to Earth in LEO and due to the Sun in Earth-Mars transit are about 8.7 and 0.003 m/s^2, so the primary microgravity effects will be roughly 2500 times smaller.

The tiny effects due to the gravity gradient across the astronaut's body will be reduced by a factor of a hundred million.

So what's the answer?

Astronauts in LEO experience tiny accelerations as the work and move about the container, pushing themselves off from the sides to get from point A to B, and from the straps they might wear while sleeping to help "stay in bed".

They receive major accelerating forces when they work out each day (exercise) to fight dangerous muscle and bone density loss.

Most of those "doses" of acceleration will almost certainly take place on a Mars transfer mission as well. Assuming they'll land and try to walk around, even though Mars' surface gravity is lower, they'll still need to be able to get out of their seats, stand up and walk around.

So I'm not seeing any real difference.

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  • $\begingroup$ my question is not about physical forces or stresses or wasting away due to lack of physical activity but rather the strong gravity FIELD no longer permeating living organisms. $\endgroup$
    – BradV
    Commented Jul 2 at 23:52
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    $\begingroup$ @BradV revisit Einstein's elevator analogy in relativity acceleration is indistinguishable from being in a gravitational field You can't separate gravity from acceleration like that. The caveat is that if the gravitational field as a gradient over an extended body, that would be distinguishable. Even time dilation is relative. Which astronaut has experienced the largest relativistic shift in time (relative to Earth's surface)? $\endgroup$
    – uhoh
    Commented Jul 3 at 0:03
  • $\begingroup$ (also How to get sunburned through the window of a General Products hull?) $\endgroup$
    – uhoh
    Commented Jul 3 at 0:08
  • $\begingroup$ Again, this is NOT about what a person feels or senses of accelerations but is about if the absence or great reduction of gravity field could affect the biological machinery (beyond recognized wasting). $\endgroup$
    – BradV
    Commented Jul 3 at 1:07
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    $\begingroup$ @BradV to my knowledge there is no physical effect that can respond to gravity in any other way than to the acceleration that results from it, except for tiny time dilation or gravity gradients. This is Stack Exchange. At this point just wait for other perhaps better answers and feel free to down vote. Maybe I'm still missing something, but this is what I can do based on my understanding of physical reality. $\endgroup$
    – uhoh
    Commented Jul 3 at 3:58

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