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The shuttle external tank held the propellants for the shuttle main engines. It was filled from spherical tanks positioned at the perimeter of the launch pad. Insulated lines ran from the spheres, through the Mobile Launcher, and into the Orbiter through two tombstone-shaped Tail Service Masts. Then through the Orbiter Main Propulsion System plumbing into ...


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1) Can someone provide an overview of the crossfeed system - in particular the detachable joint that fed LOX to to the shuttle from the tank? The buzzwords to use for googling this topic are "ET Umbilical". The system as implemented on Shuttle was complicated but caused major problems only once in the program (see below). There were two umbilical areas ...


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No, the previously used External Tanks (ETs) disintegrated in the atmosphere before they fell into the sea. Notably, Buzz Aldrin and others proposed different ideas for reuse of the tank in orbit, and allegedly NASA said that they would be willing to take external tanks to orbit if a private company would use them. No private effort ever stepped up to the ...


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It's theoretically possible to collect fuel from near empty space, the bussard ramjet is an example of an engine designed to do just that. The principle is that you use magnetic fields to collect and concentrate hydrogen atoms from the near vacuum of space, and then a fusion rocket would turn some of this into propulsion for speed and a fusion reactor would ...


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It's possible, but not as easy in real life as it is in KSP. To maintain proper tank pressurization, the crossfeeds have to be pump-driven; the fuel and oxidizer crossfeed lines have to be pretty large to move the required amount of propellant (i.e. on the order of the same power as the core section's engine turbopumps). All this increases weight and ...


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The crossfeed seen in KSP works by pumping fuel from one fuel tank to another, i.e. against tank pressure. To do this, you need pumps (independent of the engine turbopumps). Pumping large amounts of fuel quickly is not easy. You need to stop pumping cleanly when the tank is empty (or risk a pump explosion when the pump runs dry), this is difficult: you ...


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To produce a valve operating electric motor involves a very large number of parts to turn high speed low torque continuous rotary motion into short limited throw high torque motion. Every one of these parts is a potential failure that needs to have time and money spent to investigate and mitigate. They are also hard to test once fitted since once tank is ...


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I don't have a great reference for this, but it was to reduce cost on the throw-away External Tank. By using the same interface into the Orbiter used to supply propellants to the main engines, the cost and complexity of adding a dedicated loading interface to the tank was avoided. It was not a tremendous complexity hit to the Orbiter Main Propulsion system ...


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No reuse, but... NASA did not at any point actually reuse an external tank in any way. However... They made plans to allow reuse in orbit. NASA did have tentative plans for utilization of the tanks in orbit. These plans were scrapped, however. The primary factors being (1) decreased payload capacity to stable orbit †, (2) risk of insulating foam falling off ...


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To answer the question, 'is Cassini running out of fuel': As you'd expect, NASA has monitored Cassini's fuel levels. In 2014 JPL published a study, 'Ensuring Cassini’s End-of-Mission Propellant Margins': With three years left and only 2.5% of its loaded bipropellant and 37% of its loaded monopropellant remaining, the Cassini project actively manages the ...


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I'm not convinced that they (all) do. This other answer mentions a use case were open-loop hydraulics can be useful. I can also imagine some cases where you don't want to use electronic signals due to potential sparks with nasty consequences. However, I found this report evaluating pneumatic actuators versus electric torque motors for the new shuttle ...


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A big issue with boosting the tank to orbit, would be the foam insulation. It was believed it would come off in chunks, like popcorn, causing immense amounts of orbital debris, potentially in the orbit you wished to store it at. Which could be really bad news.


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Ariane 5: the Vulcain first stage engine is started using a small solid rocket motor. Shuttle SSME: after chilldown, the propellant valve is opened, allowing LH into the engine. This expands, driving the turbopump enough to fill the gas generators. The mixture in the gas generator is ignited and this drives the turbopump to operational speed. When a start ...


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Even with hydrogen, the tank weight is quite small compared to the content weight. For some examples, you can look here (you may need to do some math to get the actual numbers): http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19750004950.pdf You are right that the heat loss is less of a problem for larger tanks, but structural integrity, especially ...


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It would in principle produce a small amount of thrust; compressed-gas systems with no combustion are sometimes used for very small attitude control thrusters. Specific impulse is generally poor -- under 100 seconds as opposed to ~300 for hypergolic bipropellants and ~200 for catalyzed hydrazine monoprops. High-expansion ratio upper stage nozzles in ...


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A cryogenic geyser occurs when a volume of cryogenic liquid inside e.g. a pipe suddenly boils, propelling the liquid/gas mixture through the pipe and into its destination at high speed. The pipe can then refill (potentially causing a water hammer), and the process may repeat. If it does, you have cryogenic geyser cycling. So it's not so much a filling ...


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The issue is that the collection mechanism tends to produce more drag than thrust. Robert Zubrin and Dana Andrews showed that this makes most Bussard Ramjet-type starship propulsion impractical. In fact, this sort of mechanism is so good at producing drag, it actually does function well for decelerating a starship once it reaches its destination, meaning ...


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tl;dr: The September 15, 2017 end for Cassini is part of the second mission extension (XXM, or Solstice Mission) proposed in 2009. The plan was approved. above: "Choosing the XXM Tour: Cassini project manager Bob Mitchell demonstrates the features of the Cassini spacecraft to the XXM senior review panel at JPL on February 10th 2009, watched by project ...


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I performed a feasibility study for a Soyuz launch site on Christmas Island many years ago in support of the Asian Pacific Space Center. One of their press releases talking about the project is here: https://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/christmas/ As part of that investigation I discussed the feasibility of adding enough refrigeration capacity to ...


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There are lots of factors in KSP's simulation model which make "asparagus" staging viable and beneficial. The big one is the weak drag model (at least in early versions): the penalty for making the rocket wider isn't too bad. Conversely, the weak coupling between rigid components in KSP causes very tall rockets to "wobble", and the overpowered and under-...


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If you refer to page 25* of this Space Shuttle Main Engine orientation you will see that the LOX enters the engine at -297 deg F (-183 C) and the LH2 enters at -423 deg F (-253 C), whilst the main combustion chamber runs at a toasty 6000 deg F (3316 C). You ask specifically about the tank temperatures; if I recall correctly, there was a small temperature ...


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As far as I know they vent any remaining propellants after landing for safety reasons so I would assume most of the helium would end up being vented along with that. So my assumption is no they don't recapture it. Would it be worth it? I doubt it. 20k might sound like a lot but when you are talking about a 60M a mission it ends up being 0.03% of the cost of ...


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Once the tanks are no longer full, there's no point in keeping the propellants subcooled. When you start the engines, you just have to control the rate at which the tank and propellant warm up, to keep the pressure below its limit. The warm gas you inject into the headspace to pressurize the tank will start warming up the surface of the liquid. You'll ...


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The Falcon Heavy cores are essentially 3 Falcon 9 first stages, with only a few minor differences to distinguish them. If an explosion somehow resulted from any circumstances, all 3 cores would explode, likely causing an explosion about 3x from the AMOS-6 incident.


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The Helium per se does not explode. What happened in the AMOS-6 incident is that when fueling the upper stage which has Helium COPV (Carbon Overwrap Pressurized Vessels) that are submerged in the subcooled LOX. The Helium as it was being pumped in, faster than usual, cooled even further and they think caused oxygen to solidify and work its way into the ...


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There is nothing wrong with a substance existing in both a liquid form and a gas form at the same time, like in this case. In fact, that is where the equilibrium is! Firstly, there is not really such a thing as a liquid in a vacuum, it will always attempt to fill it*, as the boiling point gets lower with the decreased pressure. Le Chatelier's principle is ...


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The helium would no longer be pure. Especially in the liquid oxygen tank, the helium would have significant quantities of other gases mixed in. Fractional distillation could be used to separate them out again, but that might require major machinery and significant time.


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Ultimately, the answer is no, Cassini did not run out of fuel: At the end of its mission, Cassini had used 6504 pounds out of 6565 pounds (2950 kilograms out of 2978 kilograms) that it had started with. Thus, there was about 61 pounds (28 kg) of fuel still on board when Cassini entered Saturn's atmosphere on 15 September 2017. Although the referenced page ...


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First, Season 1 of Lost In Space: In episode 9, the protagonists discover that their spaceship can be fueled with "petrified biomass" which has built up over hundreds of years in the cave. If I remember correctly, there was also some 'secret ingredient' that made this specific bat guano from that specific cave have the right minerals or chemicals in it or ...


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The way it was done in lost in space was pure science fiction as their engine technology is totally different, and that plot aspect was never really explained, so it's really a plot device (not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm not above doing it myself). In reality it is possible to create biofuel from waste, for example: Collecting Methane from ...


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