Timeline for Will this be the first time that there are more people aboad the ISS than seats in docked spacecraft?
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| Aug 26 at 16:19 | comment | added | Neil_UK | IIRC, in Appollo13, the Movie, the flight director comments on the incompatibility of the LEM/CSM CO2 scrubbers with 'now tell me this isn't a government program!'. They still don't appear to have learnt about compatibility with the suit umbilicals. | |
| Aug 25 at 23:23 | comment | added | Simon Geard | @JörgWMittag Actually, the intention is that, if they have to return on Crew 8 in an emergency, they do it without flight suits. Because without the active cooling provided by the umbilical, they're worse than useless - they'll be cooking the occupants. | |
| Aug 25 at 12:22 | comment | added | Jörg W Mittag | So, the question essentially becomes whether it's safer to use a suit that is specifically designed for the astronaut but for the wrong spacecraft or one that is specifically designed for the spacecraft but only guesstimated for the astronauts. | |
| Aug 25 at 12:19 | comment | added | Jörg W Mittag | @StevePemberton: I was thinking about this as well, but AFAIK, the only ports are in the armrests of the seats, so there would be no way to connect them anyway. They can only be connected if there are seats available, which means sending a new capsule, which means you can also send suits. Normally, astronauts are laser-scanned when they are fitted with a Dragon suit, but there should be plenty of measurements available from the pre-flight medical checks, and I am willing to bet Boeing has measured them as well. | |
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| Aug 25 at 11:59 | comment | added | Steve Pemberton | @TrySCE2AUX - there would be no way to connect the umbilicals for air (and thus pressurization) so the Boeing suits would essentially be useless. This was the same problem Frank Rubio would have had on Crew 5. I actually wondered back then if there are discussions going on about the possibility of having adapters on board for this type of contingency, especially now as this is the second time this situation has occurred. Side note they only have to get one SpaceX spacesuit brought up on the Crew 9 capsule because there is already a spare one on board. | |
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| Aug 25 at 7:19 | comment | added | TrySCE2AUX | But they still need to get SpaceX flightsuits to ISS for Butch an Suni for the regular return in February 2025. But for an emergency, the Boeing suits would be good enough? So is it mostly a comfort issue not having the proper Suit? | |
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| Aug 25 at 0:58 | comment | added | Steve Pemberton | @ErinAnne - I'm going from memory but I think the terminology that they have been using for this contingency is cargo pallet. Still a bit ignoble in terms of the image that it conveys, but yes probably better than making it sound like they are riding in a separate cargo bay. | |
| Aug 24 at 23:50 | comment | added | Erin Anne | minor nitpick: "the cargo compartment of Crew Dragon" is the same compartment as the crew compartment. It's the space behind the seats, where seats were originally meant to go but is now typically used for cargo. I think that's actually a common linguistic thing--I used to refer to the area behind the back seats of my Honda Element as the trunk even though it wasn't sectioned off | |
| Aug 24 at 21:27 | history | answered | Jörg W Mittag | CC BY-SA 4.0 |